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Thinking through what some people are doing with EigenD in terms of routing into DAWs, it occurs to me that what would be extremely useful is a proxy Agent that can take an audio input within a WorkBench setup and then redirect it to a VSTi sitting in the DAW, where it can then be recorded the same as any other virtual instrument. The proxy agent could then have an audio output that passed the input straight back out again, thus making it essentially transparent in EigenD. That way you could have a setup that was played exclusively from EigenD, but where each individual instrument (or indeed any audio feed) could be passed to a separate instance of the VSTi, each sitting in a different track in your DAW. This would allow each to be recorded and arranged after the event.

I'm guessing that, due to the hassle with establishing reliable inter-application communication and synchronisation, this is something that seems easy, but would actually be a complete nightmare to achieve. Could anyone with more technical knowledge advise just how realistic (or otherwise) this would be to achieve?

Thanks,
Mark.

It is possible to setup multiple VSTs in a DAW and have the Eigenharp control them. Splits can even be set up to control multiple VSTs simultaneously, although I prefer one at a time as I'm only recording one voice at a time.

What advantage would a native EigenD agent have?

Randy

There are several solutions for this already, ie. JackOSX for instance, or the standard Apple NetSend and NetReceive. Jack is for me more unstable than SoundFlower, but I've used NetSend/NetReceive for successfully across my home network, even on WIFI.

Hi CarvingCode,
I presume you mean using MIDI to control the VSTs? This does have advantages, since what you record can then be manipulated in the DAW, but it would be at the expense of some level of expression. It may be the placebo effect, but playing a vst in EigenD seems more responsive. Having a way to filter the audio out of EigenD to record it when required, but have it coming from while playing would also mean I could use the same setup regardless of whether I wanted to record, with the reduced resource usage if I didn't. MIDI is a good suggestion though and it's certainly my 'plan b', but the other disadvantage of that is the same approach wouldn't work for the sampler instruments in ED.

I've recorded Eigenharp output directly into Reaper, by selecting the main I/O channel as the input. Even recorded the piano sound.

For what it's worth, I've been doing this for some time but rather than using M4L, I've been feeding raw OSC from EigenD into Max. From there, I create the desired keyboard splits, tunings and other MIDI processing, and then I either play live into multiple VSTs hosted by Max or I just send the processed MIDI data into my DAW (digital performer) using multi-record so that each MIDI stream from Max goes to a separate track. Each track is associated with the desired VST or AU and can be recorded. I coud probably just feed the audio channels from Max directly to the DAW with Rewire but haven't tried that.